Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!hubcap!ddyer From: ddyer@hubcap.clemson.edu (Doug) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga vs NeXT Message-ID: <11454@hubcap.clemson.edu> Date: 7 Nov 90 22:59:19 GMT References: <405@shrike.AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM> <1990Oct31.175023.2697@cbnewsl.att.com> <11287@hubcap.clemson.edu> <3950.273719ff@cc.helsinki.fi> <11416@hubcap.clemson.edu> <3965.273871dd@cc.helsinki.fi> Organization: Clemson University, Clemson, SC Lines: 100 jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi writes: >In article <11416@hubcap.clemson.edu>, ddyer@hubcap.clemson.edu (Doug) writes: >> jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi writes: >> >> Well, thats all? The sound chip in Amiga is not as good, but it is capable >> of stereo. Other than that there are MANY chips on the motherboard. I >> was more or less interested in any graphics chips that are standard equipped. >Hmm. The Amiga soundchip is next to nothing for me, because it can't >produce professional quality sound. (I make computer music.) And for me, >the NeXT DSP is more valuable than the Amiga's "special" chips together. >Sure, the Amiga's blitter is absent from the NeXT, but if I need >decent color graphics, I require Iris standard graphics a'la NeXTDimension >(but I don't need color graphics, so I will buy a mono NeXTstation). I DONT produce computer music. the NeXTdimenson is cool. You need the color monitor and a bus, that puts the NeXT out of my range. >If you want not-so-expensive color graphics, the A3000 could be a good >buy. But you only need color graphics for pictures, animation and games. >I personally prefer a grey-scale GUI to a color GUI. a'la video. You want grey-scale, set your color to greys, or use the 1000x800 mono (4-grey?) monitor. The Amiga GUI is almost infinitly configurable. >> Your NeXT is good for DTP, but I want DTV and that can demand a lot >> of resources that the OS would otherwise absorb. Amigavision is infinitly >> more intriguing to me than LOTUS or WORDPERFECT. >There should (at least very soon) be a program called "Renderman" for >NeXTs, which I believe will be VEERY powerful graphic/animation program. Renderman is not unique to NeXT it is a port. It will demand A LOT of resources. >> As for your future software developers. I am curious, would developers >> bother to write a wordprocessor, or spreadsheet or math app? Would they mind >> being stuck with objective-C? >NeXT. Or did you mean that since such good programs are already >available, there would be no good reason to write other good software?!? Exactly. A good bundle causes some interesting problems for developers. That wasn't an attack, just an observation. afterall, the end-user is what counts. I thought that was kinduv funny. >How come should the be stuck with objective-C? There are several >different languages for the NeXT. Good. I was wrong. I thought I read somewhere that to use the IB you needed to use objective-C. >> The A3000 is well worth the money I paid, and is more suited to my >> desires than the NeXT. In fact, if there is ANY pc that has no trouble holding >> its own, strangely its the A3000. The NeXT is a threat to MAC (DTP) and >> well, IBM doesnt have much to offer at this price. >You keep talking about NeXT as a plain DTP machine. (I read it between >the lines.) What is the reason for this? To raise the NeXT to video ala color and their RISC chip video board is very expensive. As the affordable NeXTs have good DTP capability (Mono, postscript, a good laser printer) that would be it's stong point to me. The IB is the neatest thing, though. Ofcourse, with the hires mono monitor and Amiga software improving by leaps and bounds... >IMHO, the only thing that Amiga2000 is better choice than NeXT for is >not-so-expensive animation work. (And if you want really good graphics, >NeXT is hard to beat.) The NeXT ain't that hard to beat- I don't care for your features. I need NTSC output, blitter, color, speed, memory & diskspace (low-overhead os) multitasking, video & animation software, entertainment software alright? If you want to talk about the NeXT, do it in the NeXT camp. I don't mind being corrected - that is important, but your computer is a far cry from God. I even got email from NeXTers over and over advertising their own machine a while back. The NeXT needs no advertising here -- you have to do a lot of computer searching to come up with the Amiga as visibility goes. I am NOT going to buy a NeXT. You did, great. I am not an amiga expert. I searched for a computer to suit my needs\budget and bought an A3000. I like the NeXTs, but I liked the A3000 even more. Many people do. Please respond e-mail, I don't have time to sort through all these threads and this one is kinduv boring (no offense, but I'd read the NeXT group if I was interested). So long, -- ---------------------------------//------------------------------------- Doug Dyer Clemson University // "Splunge!" - MP ddyer@hubcap.clemson.edu \\ // -----------------------------\X/----------------------------------------