Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU!WHE46 From: WHE46@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (Marc Barrett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Amiga DSP Boards. Message-ID: <09693037C3FF60FD23@ISUVAX.BITNET> Date: 8 Nov 90 21:28:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 61 In a message someone commented: > There are DSP boards available for the Amiga. What is the installed base of Amigas with DSP boards? Far, far less than the installed base of NeXT systems with DSPs, to be sure. I doubt there are 100 Amiga with DPSs world-wide, compared to about 30,000 NeXT systems with DSPs. Another problem with these DSP boards for the Amiga is that they are totally useless, because they have no software available for them. If I were to purchase one of these DSP boards, I would have absolutely no use for it, because I wouldn't be able to do anything with it. If I wanted to use it to demonstrate 16-bit stereo sound, I would be unable to because I would have to write my own sound composition programs for the thing, and then compose my own songs. It would be simpler to just get a NeXT. Another problem is price. The NeXT systems are quite good deals, and these Amiga DSP boards are quite expensive. An Amiga with a DSP board is more expensive than a NeXT, with less DSP software. Before I get torched by all the trigger-happy people around here, let me clarify myself. I am NOT bashing the Amiga with this message. I am bashing the Amiga DSP boards. I am pointing out that, before the availability of DSP boards is going to have any impact on the market as a whole (or the NeXT), there have to be more of these DSP boards available, they have to all be totally compatible with each other, and they must drastically come down in price. Since the DSP systems are too expensive and have no software (and are therefore totally useless to most people), these boards might as well not exist at all. I do have a solution for some of the problems with DSP boards for the Amiga. There are plenty of programs for the Amiga that will play sound via MIDI synthesizers. The SMUS standard is totally compatible with MIDI, and most Amiga multimedia software (including AmigaVision) supports MIDI. The way to make these DSP boards more useful is to make them compatible with programs that support MIDI. In essence, here is how it could be done. I would like to see these Amiga DSP boards modified so that they support 16-bit stereo sound, and communicate with Amiga software in exactly the same way that a MIDI synthesizer (connected to the Amiga via a MIDI interface) does. The same board should also include a hi-fi 16-bit stereo sound digitizer, with both the sound synthesis and digitization supported by the DSP. Some people might ask "Why not just get a MIDI synthesizer and a MIDI interface?" The answer is that such modified DSP boards could be more desireable because it would be complete and on a single card, and would not have the tangled mess of cables and large amount of space that a synthesizer does. It would also include both 16-bit sound synthesis and digitation on a single integrated card. If this is done, then these resulting DSP boards would actually be useful to the average person -- much more useful even than a NeXT system. -MB-