Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!CONCOUR.CS.CONCORDIA.CA!goldfish From: goldfish@CONCOUR.CS.CONCORDIA.CA (-- Paul Goldsmith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: OSF/1 on DNxxxx Message-ID: <9011051236.aa24591@concour.cs.concordia.ca> Date: 5 Nov 90 18:36:10 GMT References: <9011051542.AA25070@pan.ssec.honeywell.com> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 64 | From: John Thompson | Subject: OSF/1 on DNxxxx | | I just got this forwarded to me from an HP/Apollo friend. As far as I'm | aware, it is official -- | | > OSF/1 on Domain/OS | > | > HP will offer OSF/1 on its Motorola 68040-based Domain/OS workstations. | > | > The decision was made this week, rolled out to the press at UNIX Expo in | > New York City, and is being communicated to the factory and field | > beginning with this message. In addition, a letter is going to the | > Domain/OS customer base. | > | > As a result of this decision, HP Apollo Series 3500, 3550 and 4500 | > personal workstations users, who choose to purchase a CPU board upgrade | > based on the Motorola 68040 microprocessor, can run the OSF/1 operating | > system on their upgraded CPU. | > | > "It became clear to us at the recent Apollo Domain Users Society | > meeting that migration to the OSF/1 operating system represents the | > strategic direction of choice for the majority of our Domain/OS | > workstation customers," said Mark Tolliver, WG Marketing Manager. "Also, | > in keeping with our commitment to preserve our customers' investments, we | > are pleased to announce that the Domain/OS customers who migrate to OSF/1 | > will be assured of protecting their hardware investment." | > | Sounds like, if you yell loud enough, almost anybody can be made to listen | (especially if you make sense!) Paul Krill of Unix Today! called me on Wednesday Oct 31 and read me that quote. below is an extract of what I sent him in response. "... call me back in two days if Hewlett Packard hasn't changed their mind; I'll believe it when I see a HP press release, read it in your magazine, or see it in the New York Times. Given Hewlett Packard's flip flopping on the whole Apollo line, I don't trust any unconfirmed announcement from them. As to their speculative decision not to provide an upgrade path for the DN 3000, the 3000 is based on the 68020, and is comparable to the Sun 3/50 which has also been discontinued. ..." I guess that makes it official; but do we really want to scream and yell to be treated responsibly by our hardware manufacturer? Later in my comments to Paul Krill, I said the following: ... At the time of the takeover, Apollo had a twenty percent market share and HP had an eleven percent market share. I would be interested in seeing their up-to-date market share numbers; and the current Apollo/HP split. Somehow, I think that lots of people would be very happy with those current numbers and none of them draw HP paycheques. ... -- Paul Goldsmith (goldfish) (514) 848-3031 (Shirley Maclaine told me there would be LIFETIMES like this)