Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!midway!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!RICHTER.MIT.EDU!krowitz From: krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: The old "Classic/New Coke" trick. Message-ID: <9011081359.AA14481@richter.mit.edu> Date: 8 Nov 90 13:59:22 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 35 The reason for buying an upgrade for a DN3500/4500 to an '040 DN5500 is that the CPU is a minor part of the full cost of a system. This is why the product literature in which the manufacturers trupet their latest and greatest CPU line always quotes the price of the "entry level " system -- ie. monochrome, diskless, and with minimum RAM. If you look at the cost of upgrading a color DN3500 with 19" 1280x1024 monitor, 32 MB RAM, 697 MB disk and cartridge tape (about $7000 for the CPU upgrade) vs. the cost of an entry level model 425t (about $9000), then the prices look similar. But the additional 24 MB of RAM (at $4000/8MB) will run you another $12,000, the 19" high-res color monitor option will cost you another $2000 for the color controller and $2000 for the 19" vs. the 16" monitor, two 200MB internal disks will run you another $5000, and the external catridge tape is not on my price list, but general goes for at least another $1500. This totals out to $31,500 vs. $7000 -- and only includes 400 MB of disk vs. 697 MB disk. If you need a machine that has an AT-bus (either because you have multiple network controllers in your DN3500/4500 or because you have 3rd party I/O boards), then the cost difference between a model 425t and a model 433s is adds another $3000 to the price for a total of $34,500. This is not cheap. The CPU upgrades are a *very* good price for many customers who have large investments in memory, periperals, and graphics options. That is why HP/Apollo offered them. It is also why so many customers got so pissed off when HP initially implied at the ADUS conference that they would not support OSF/1 on any DN platform, including the DN5500. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)