Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!unknown From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Apple II / Mac discusson (was:Re:Official"No New Apple II's") Message-ID: <8528@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 5 Nov 90 09:03:19 GMT References: <9011040755.AA25630@apple.com> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing Lines: 46 In article <9011040755.AA25630@apple.com> MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU writes: >I don't think it's really 'null', but I agree that the XXMhz numbers aren't >a straight forward way of determining the speed of a chip, although, you can >usually get a pretty good idea of the relative speed by these numbers. Anyway, >I think the point of that original "Processor speed is higher" was accurate in >comparing the Macs speed to the GS's speed. A 7 Mhz 68000 is definitely faster >than a 2.8Mhz 65816. I'm not basing that on the Mhz numbers, but the actual >speed of the two processors. Working with a GS and a Mac side by side, you >can definitely tell that the Mac is faster. Can definitely tell that the Mac is faster? Think of this hypothetical example.. You have one GS that has a Transwarp GS card in it.. It is running System Disk 1.0 for the GS... (Or whichever version is the first that's -NOT- running that non-Super Hires mode "Finder".. That one was relatively quick from what I remember).. You also have a standard 2.8 megahertz GS running System Disk 5.03 (I doubt they made speed differences between 5.0x verssions but I'm just using the latest in case they are)... So theoretically the standard speed GS would look faster to the user, correct? I do not actually know what would happen. If someone can make this comparison and post some kind of benchmarks, it would be interesting... (I didn't use the Zip GS in my example knowing that it was a looot faster than the TransWarp) My example is just trying to show very clearly that looking faster to the END USER does -NOT- mean the Mac is faster. I'm not saying the Mac isn't faster, I'm just being very very picky on this point. You go from System disk 4.0 to System disk 5.0.. Your computer didn't speed up, but it "acts peppier". Even that simple 'upgrade' seems to show my point. The software has a LOT to do with it, and I would bet that parts of the Mac finder are much more refined than the GS Finder.. (Or other programs, not simply the O/S) To directly compare the two, you would have to figure out how many clock ticks it takes to complete similar instructions, then you can make general comparisons.. -- /Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu MAIL ME FOR INFO ABOUT CHEAP CDs\ \"If cartoons were meant for adults, they'd be on in prime time."-Lisa Simpson/