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From: jfr@locus.com (Jon Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on Mac lineage wanted
Message-ID: <19194@oolong.la.locus.com>
Date: 6 Nov 90 19:03:38 GMT
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In article <5179@testeng1.misemi> stanfiel@testeng1.UUCP () writes:
>Mac - 128k mem, can be upgraded to 512 or 512E (probably not worth it) 2
>serial ports, 1 400k internal floppy, 1 400k external floppy port.
>Price <$200

Probably more like <$100-150

>Mac 512E - 512k, 128k ROM set. As 128 and 512, except that there are
>upgrades available which allow the addition of a SCSI port and more.
>RAM (up to 4Mb - cost approx. $300 plus RAM) Price <$300

Probably more like <$250

>Mac Plus - 1Mb, SCSI port, can be upgraded to 4Mb by changint the
>supplied 256k simms for 1Mb simms. Price $<500

Probably more like <$400 , <$500 with 2.5M or 4M of memory 

>Mac SE - like the Plus, but comes with two internal floppies or 1  
>floppy and 1 hard drive (usually 20M, occasionaly 40M) Same memory,
>and also has one expansion slot. Price <$1500

WHOA!!! With a brand new CLASSIC selling at $1500 with a 40M hard drive,
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SOMEONE SPEND $1500 ON A USED SE????
The only things you get for your money are a slot (probably not needed
by most people ) and everything else that is old (old ROMs, old keybpoard...)
Nah, I think an SE without hard drive would be <$600 and an SE with a
hard drive would be <$1000 in most cases...

>Mac SE/30 - All the above use the 68000 processor, but this baby uses
>the 68030. Usually supplied with one floppy and a hard drive (40M),
>and has one expansion slot. I believe this one will take up tp 5M of
>memory, not just 4M (?) Price $2000 to $3000, maybe more.

Who knows on this one?  The Mac II Si is, with color monitor and
68030 about $3500 street price  so this may be close... However,
you still need to factor in expandability of the Si, color, etc... 

>Mac II - You can get anything you want, depending on which model you
>choose, but the prices start a LOT higher. In particular, these
>machines have multiple expansion slots (number depends on machine)
>Price $4000 and up.
>
If you can still find a Mac Plus NEW (some stores may still have
them for under $600), you may be better off with a new Mac Plus and
some cheap memory upgrades... This will still get you your warranty
which used machines generally don't have... Alternatively, if you
can afford it, the new Classic may be a better buy then annything
else... Good luck...

Jon Rosen