Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!knrgroup From: knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!! Message-ID: <1990Nov5.184802.28754@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 5 Nov 90 18:48:02 GMT References: <1990Nov5.042826.28732@world.std.com> <1990Nov5.064724.16646@agate.berkeley.edu> <9530@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 41 wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) writes: > 15,000 * 6 = 90,000 machines per year. Macintosh, in its FIRST year, sold >500,000, and it was NOT an overwhelmingly popular machine. It was seen as >making very little headway into business and only a little more into >academia. You would compare sales of Mercedes to Toyotas. The NeXT is a workstation, not a low or middle-range PC. Sun, by all accounts a great success, sells in the order of 100,000 workstations a year. Compare NeXT sales to machines it is competing against, like the Mac IIfx, Sun, HP, etc. By your argument, Cray is a dismal failure because they sell less supercomputers than IBM sells mainframes. Mark Wilkins continues: >If NeXT had sold TEN TIMES as many machines, they'd be doing well. If NeXT >had sold FIVE TIMES as many machines, it would be tough for them. At only >7,500 per month it will still be a bitter fight for survival. If NeXT sold TEN TIMES as much (i.e, 75,000 machines a MONTH), it would have 100% of the workstation market and a very large share of the high-end PC market. If NeXT sold FIVE TIMES as much, it would leapfrog Sun and the Mac IIfx. At 7,500 per month, NeXT is competing head-to-head with Sun and the Mac II. Mark Wilkins also writes: > When NeXT has an installed base of 1,000,000 is when I'm laying my money >on the line. Not a minute before. When NeXT has a million in its installed base, it will have about half of its target market. The lower-end Macs are out there in the millions, but has probably less than 25% of the market. Once again, the NeXT is not a PC. It is aimed at a different audience, and you must measure its success by how well it does against other machines aimed at the same audience. Saying all this, I have to add that a NeXT is now a better buy than a Mac SE/30, Mac II, IIci, IIcx, IIfx, et al. Sales of NeXTs will grow even further as the NeXT begins to incur into the mid-range Mac and high-end PC market. Now is the time to become a software developer for the NeXT. When your product is finished, the NeXT will have a large installed base.