Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!knrgroup From: knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!! Message-ID: <1990Nov7.034108.8598@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 7 Nov 90 03:41:08 GMT References: <1990Nov7.015140.239@agate.berkeley.edu> <1990Nov7.015951.784@agate.berkeley.edu> <39269@ut-emx.uucp> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 27 awessels@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels) writes: >(The problem with flame wars like these is that people start fixating on the >whiz-bang features of that new box without knowing what the old stuff will >really do. And of course, since the new stuff is generally not at hand, >some of those whiz-bang features look bigger than life.) I've owned a Mac SE for four years. An old housemate had a Mac SE/30. I've used everything from a 128K Mac to a Mac IIfx. I know what the old machine can and cannot do. I don't, however, keep the names of laser printers straight in my head since I have never purchased a personal laser printer. I am currently a software developer on the NeXT machine. I have seen the new machines in action on several different occasions, including an entire day spent porting our software to the new NeXTs. At any rate, the whiz-bang features of the old and new NeXTs are definitely for real. As a programming environment, the much-maligned old NeXTs were incredible. The new NeXTs seem even better. You can now dynamically load objects into Interface Builder. I find it curious that those who favor the Mac over the NeXT in this current thread have either limited or no exposure to the NeXT. Is there anyone out there, anyone at all, who has extensive experience with the NeXT and prefers the Mac to the NeXT? Second question: Is there any programmer who has worked extensively on both Macs and NeXTs who doesn't believe the NeXT has the much superior software development environment?