Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!midway!news From: gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!! Message-ID: <1990Nov9.004135.19072@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 9 Nov 90 00:33:50 GMT Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago Graduate School of Business Lines: 48 ------ In article <1990Nov9.002046.17847@agate.berkeley.edu>, knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) writes... >vd09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vincent M. Del Vecchio) writes; >>We talk about how slow the old NeXTs were because that's the only >>thing many of us have to go by. > >But why should it matter now? You know the new machines are very fast. You >know they are faster than any Mac likely to be on the market in the next >six months. Six months, huh? Quite impressive indeed. [...] >>I'd like to see the first Mac 040 accelerators, and compare *them* to the >>NeXT > >At what price? You'd need a Mac IIfx with an 040, 8 MB RAM, and 105 MB hard >disk, all at a price of $5000 retail to approach the price/performance ratio >for a NeXT. Complete BS! First of all, a IIfx '040 would be more comparable to a cube, given expansion options, etc. So let's start from a base of $8000. Second, 8 MB on the Mac != 8 MB on the Next; that is, the Next NEEDS more memory to run it's OS, etc. How much does a Next need to boot? A Mac will only need 2MB with System 7.0. Second, a 105 MB on a Next is more or less equivalent to a 30MB HD on a Mac, given the size of the required OS files on the Next. Second, a 25MHz '040 Mac would run rings around a Next in terms of "speed", the same way the IIci runs rings around the '030 cube. Why? All the overhead the Next has to do: Display Postscript, etc. > >There will be faster Macs, which will be followed by even faster NeXTs, and >so on. But until Apple starts pricing its high-end Macs much better, the >NeXT will certainly be the better buy. I agree with you there, at least bang-for-the-buck-wise. Robert ============================================================================ = gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu * generic disclaimer: * "It's more fun to = = * all my opinions are * compute" = = * mine * -Kraftwerk = ============================================================================