Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!knrgroup From: knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!! Message-ID: <1990Nov9.224209.18758@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 9 Nov 90 22:42:09 GMT References: <1990Nov9.195958.15383@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 31 gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes: >when you start resorting to non-factual claims .... Non-factual? Say that that System 7.0 takes about 1 MB of the 2 MB of RAM that comes standard. Say that the NeXT has a whopping 4 MB of overhead (it's probably less than this), this still leaves 4 MB free on a minimally configured NeXT as opposed to a 1 MB for a Mac. And the disadvantages of the large overhead on the NeXT, IMHO, are outweighed by the advantages of Display PostScript and the hidden but ever-present power of Unix. Would you argue that the extra overhead the Mac has compared to an MS-DOS machine outweighs the advantages a Mac OS has over MS-DOS. I don't think so. Likewise, I think that Display PostScript and Unix more than make up for the extra overhead on the NeXT. The NeXT also has virtual and protected memory. Meaning you can run arbitrarily-sized applications and run more than one of them at a time without fear of crashing one program with another. As for your accusation that I made any non-factual claims. This is kind of funny from the guy who told me that a LaserWriter NT was comparable in price to a NeXT laser printer, and then allowed me to take the flack because I assumed you were talking about the non-PostScript laser printer for the Mac, the ONLY Apple Laser printer comparable in price to the NeXT's. The SC, by the way, retails for $200 more than the NeXT laser printer. The NT costs almost twice as much as NeXT's laser printer. You have made same valid arguments. However, most of your views on the NeXT are uninformed. You may know your Macs, but you do not know the NeXT. I will probably never be able to change your misperceptions of the NeXT. However, if you would care to use and/or program on a NeXT for a while, you will see what all my words are attempting to describe.