Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!knrgroup From: knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!! Message-ID: <1990Nov9.230811.20858@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 9 Nov 90 23:08:11 GMT References: <1990Nov7.230807.17914@agate.berkeley.edu> <911@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> <2924@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 29 ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodyear) writes: >No matter what you do, eventually somewhere along the line if you "own" >the machine, you're going to have to get down & dirty in the OS (Unix) >of the NeXT. So, have you owned a NeXT? (and I mean for personal use and not as a node in a network) I ask because several people have voiced their opinions based on their experience with "Unix boxes" other than the NeXT. The NeXT is not a typical Unix box. It hides Unix from the user, whereas other Unix boxes just put windows around Unix command-lines for the most part. Do you ever have to mess with the guts of a Mac OS? If so, is this any easier than messing with the guts of Unix? Most users don't have to do any of this. If something gets really messed up with the OS, you just reload the OS or get some professional software package or an expert to take care of the problem for you. This is true on the Mac as well as the NeXT. I've been a Mac user for 4 years, but I wouldn't have a clue what to do if the Mac OS got screwed up. I don't even know how to access the Mac OS. On the other hand, accessing the NeXT's OS is trivial. As for adding hard disks and other devices for the NeXT, it is plug-and-play if the device was made for the NeXT or for 4.3BSD (for the most part). Likewise, for the Mac. It is true that most NeXT owners WILL use Unix. However, this is because they'll want to do things that you wouldn't be able to do on a Mac or because they want to do things without having to buy commerical software as you would have to do with a Mac (of course, there is pirating, but I won't go into that).