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From: wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7 and Mac Plus/SE 68030 upgrades.
Message-ID: <1990Nov3.122558.28340@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
Date: 3 Nov 90 12:25:58 GMT
References: <9514@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
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In article <9514@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu (Mark Wilkins) writes:
>[...] a file which came along with it
>indicated that System 7 would not support virtual memory on 68000 Macs with
>third-party 68030 upgrades.

Interesting.

>  Since I know that many have purchased these upgrades hoping to get the
>added functionality of VM from System 7, I was curious what the Net's
>reaction would be to this.  In my opinion, Apple can't be expected to support
>every unholy combination of third-party hardware with the Mac, but I'm sure
>others have different views on that.  However, I'm a little surprised and
>I'm not sure I understand.  Does this come as a surprise to anyone else or is
>it just me?

Well, I'm quite surprised by this statement. My surprise is based upon the 
already existing Virtual product. The only reason one would require obtaining
a modified version of this product is due the fact that they LIMITED the
hardware that could be used with each version for efficiency reasons. It was
my understanding after having talked with their representative that the
underlying code changed little (understandably).

So, I wonder what's up with Apple's code that they decided that any '030 
equipped machine won't support VM. I mean, let's face it; the only problems that
I've encountered on mine involved software that noticed it was running on an SE
and assumed an '000. I suppose that this leaves two reasons for Apple's edict
-- 1) they make hardware assumptions in their code (hard to believe), or 2)
They want to make sure the low end stays that way (VERY plausible!).

This revelation is also funny. The two main reasons people would be updating to
7.0 are TrueType and VM. For a reasonable price, both can be had for ANY
hardware configuration of Mac. I suppose the same will be true enough of
TrueType (does this mean ATM is unTrueType?), but the seamless integration of VM
into the System software would have been very nice. I guess this is yet another
reason for a majority of users NOT to upgrade... especially those lucky new
owners of Classics and LCs (after 1/91)...

Oh well... there's always System 8.0...

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