Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!rutgers!morley.rutgers.edu!purtill From: purtill@morley.rutgers.edu (Mark Purtill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NOT (click to type) in NeXTStep? Message-ID: Date: 6 Nov 90 22:25:13 GMT References: <8516@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <25251@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> <10357@ubc-cs.UUCP> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 40 I'm beginning to wonder if NeXTStep isn't a total botch. First I hear that you're forced to have click-to-type, and everyone acts like I'm insane for prefering it, and then I read: morrison@cs.ubc.ca (Rick Morrison) writes: >The problem that I still have with the interface is the marriage of >click-in-window with bring-window-to-top-and-make-current. Do I read this right? The window you're typing in MUST be in front? I suppose I'm supposed to like that, too. Well, I don't; I often leave the bottom of a shell exposed with the top covered by several other windows, and can thus slip into it (leaving the other windows) to check mail and run other small commands without having to rearrange the desktop after I'm done. It sound's like NeXTStep won't let me do that. Perhaps I'd better ask: Will NeXTStep let me redefined what mouse clicks do? Or am I stuck with whatever NeXT thinks I like? While I'm at it: scott@NIC.GAC.EDU writes: > One area where there'd be problems on the NeXT is that, at least under the > X I saw, the cursor was _always_ on-screen. This caused me no end of > frustration, because you _always_ had to have that cursor within the > window you wanted to type in, and it was without fail right where you > were working. So you always had to move it a couple times when editting > a large file. (1) I believe X11 can be set up to be click-to-type, although I've never seen it done. (2) Right now there is a mouse-cursor in the window I am typing in, and this is causing me no trouble what-so-ever. (I just typed right under it now). (3) You hate pointer focus, and I hate click-to-type. I don't care WHY you hate pointer focus, I just want to be able to use the system I like. So, please, NO MORE POSTINGS on why I really ought to like click to type. I don't, and I don't want to use it. NeXT ought not to force me to; of course, they can't, as I can not buy a NeXT, but I'd rather that it didn't come to that. ^.-.^ Mark Purtill purtill@dimacs.rutgers.edu (201)932-4580 (O) ((")) P.O. Box 1179, Rutgers Univ., Piscataway, NJ 08855 (201)220-6905 (H)