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From: kls30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard)
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Subject: Re: Mac is software - why not on NeXT?
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Date: 9 Nov 90 13:07:37 GMT
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In article <1990Nov7.002438.12949@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> wln@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (William L Nussbaum) writes:
>In <5974@mace.cc.purdue.edu>, asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) writes:
>>In <1990Nov6.160855.864@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> q4kx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Joel Sumner) writes:
>
>>>'reverse engineer' the Mac Toolbox, go ahead.  Apple can't do much.  But that
>>>is a pretty ridiculous project.  (Look at how few companies produced Apple II
>>>clones.  2.  Only one is now still around.  Laser)  Therefore, the only real
>>Actually, there was Franklin, Laser, and I hear there is a clone in
>>the Soviet Union of the II's.  I've also heard that cloning is VERY
>>big over in southeast asia, and that you can get whatever kind of
>>Apple II that you want there, CHEAP (this from someone who was there).
>>Of course, I don't think they are quite on the legal side. :)
>
>...but these Apple II clones were "clones" - copies -- not compatibles.  PC
>clones exist without legal problems because IBM published the BIOS code. Apple
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.  Clones exist because the IBM BIOS was
reversed engineered by Phoenix Tech. and DTK of Taiwan.  They used a clean
room approach.  IBM sued and lost because clean room engineering IS legal
and NON-INFRINGING. Don't confuse the facts IBM was/is pissed at clone
makers.  IBM wants royalties from XT/AT sales if you want to license
their MCA.  The payment they seek IS retroactive, IS BIOS and bus related.

>
>whatever, whenever
>
>  - Lee
>
>| William illiam Lee Nussbaum, Jr.
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