Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!cmcl2!panix!alexis From: alexis@panix.uucp (Alexis Rosen) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux Subject: Re: uucp scripts (continued) Message-ID: <1990Nov9.132804.26574@panix.uucp> Date: 9 Nov 90 13:28:04 GMT References: <1990Nov8.120740.19410@panix.uucp> <46421@apple.Apple.COM> Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY Lines: 38 In article <46421@apple.Apple.COM> ksand@Apple.COM (Kent Sandvik) writes: >In article <1990Nov8.120740.19410@panix.uucp> alexis@panix.uucp (Alexis Rosen) writes: >>1) currently, Apple ships a sample /usr/lib/sendmail.cf which contains >>information which would put bogus headers on out-system mail. >> >>2) To avoid sending such mail, they also graciously supply you with a >>zero byte long sendmail.fc. No wonder your mail goes nowhere... >> >>3) They also supply the m4 stuff to build a real sendmail.cf but their >>prototypes are very broken for uucp. Bang paths will work but internet- >>style stuff fails. > >It's practically impossible to provide a sendmail.cf file that will work >for all sites and network configurations. To start with sendmail is a little >bit, eh, bohemian. I disagree- The script I posted works well for (as far as I can tell) any uucp-only Mac. If you hacked it to run TCP/IP as well (which I think I managed, but I won't swear to it) you'd have a script that covers 99% of A/UX users' needs. >[...] So concerning sendmail you just got to trust on friendly people that >provides working scripts, like Alexis Rosen. Well, thanks, but I don't buy this for a second. Even if you can't do a useable sendmail.cf for 99% of the users (I'm not convinced of this), the m4 prototypes ought to be in working order. They are _not_. A "sample" .cf file is quite accecptable, but the m4 stuff smacks of the same shoddy (or nonexistant) QA that went into uucp. I get the feeling that every A/UX person in Apple was born with a Thinnet connector in their bellybutton. They haven't shown much concern (through 2.0) for serial stuff. The good news is that most of this will be fixed in 2.0.1. --- Alexis Rosen Owner/Sysadmin, PANIX Public Access Unix, NY {cmcl2,apple}!panix!alexis