Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!cert.sei.cmu.edu!krvw From: ROEBUCK@admin1.usask.ca (Terry (TR) Roebuck; 966-4841) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Is this a MAC Virus attack? (Mac) Message-ID: <0006.9011061327.AA14231@ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu> Date: 5 Nov 90 15:54:00 GMT Sender: Virus Discussion List Lines: 47 Approved: krvw@sei.cmu.edu The machine: MAC SE/30; 4MB & 80 MB Apple drive running 6.04; MAChine purchased in spring of 1989; NEVER EVER BACKED UP!!!!! and holding the entire financial and planning records of a local dept. Symptoms: Disinfectant 2.3 INIT goes off, WDEF on newly inserted diskette; user runs Disinfectant (theoretically correctly); everything seems fine ... The next morning: First time being powered on after the Disinfectant run; the desktop comes up as being empty (no icons to be displayed; the message bar on the desktop window still reports 41,xxx KB used, 38,xxx KB available and indicates a reasonable number of files (~370) using the 41MB) First Aid: Find File can not find any files. Apple FILE FIRST AID can not find anything to fix (I think this only looks at the desktop file). NORTON's MAC Utilities says that the directory has problems; says that it can fix the files affected ands rebuild; claims to have done so, BUT no files are seen (same state as before - yes I rebuilt the desktop after the recover attempt). The final Solution: SUM Utilities are required to get every file, and lots of 'stuff' that are/were files (got to get all 79.9MB back). User is still sifting through 'hundreds' of "??MS WORD Doucument No. xx"; some of which have spreadsheets and databases stuck in the middle (fragmentation?). Disk seems fine (physically). Only clue was that there were at least 4 different versions of the system on the disk; probably the result of poor application install practices .... Question: Does this sound like a virus, or "a random photon from the radio galaxy"? - If it's a virus, which one? any other thoughts? Did I do things in the right order? Was there a magic bit to flip? Comment: I could claim that the user deserved this - after all it is a lot easier to recover from a disk/tape then to look at all those files at the block level and determine if they should be saved; and we push at all levels to get these people to backup - but you know, once the data is dusted, some one has got to get it back (on the grounds that a few days of my work is better that 1000's of hours of theirs from an institutional point of view) Aside: They are now buying a tape drive and I suspect will be doing backups. =============================================================================== Terry (TR) Roebuck University of Saskatchewan Computing Services Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada "roebuck@Sask.Usask.CA" (306) 966 - 4841 ===============================================================================