Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ns-mx!iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!130!10!Henry.Kasten From: Henry.Kasten@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Henry Kasten) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: dogs, dogs everywhere and not a spot to poop! Message-ID: <15497@bunker.UUCP> Date: 6 Nov 90 14:08:23 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Henry.Kasten@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:130/10 - D D Connection, Fort Worth TX Lines: 43 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 11593 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Ola Vixen, Worn out your new sneakers yet? Sounds like you and Tobey are doing well. Keep up the fun. Just a few comments on the dog guide stuff. First there is a grain of truth in all the stories provided by dog guide users. None of us knows the degree of competencey a person has as far as mobility with a cane is concerned. Frankly, I agree with you that the more confident cane traveler will be a better dog guide traveler. i certainly would not recommend getting a dog because you get lost allot. Yet, the dog can bail you out of a sticky situation and get you back to a familiar spot. Your cane cannot do that. It is true, some people train there dogs to follow a particular route, put it in automatic pilot and cruise to their destination. That method works fine for them. I travel all over the place, rarely taking the same route when leaving a spot to go to another. Falcon doesn't know where I want to go. I must give directions. He does know the way to the car in the parking garage, I give him his lead and let him take me to the car. So, yes, I sometimes let him be the navigator. You might too. What about fetching. Sometimes it is nice when I drop something and Falcon picks it up and gives it to me or at least points to where it has fallen. I would not lose any sleep if my dog had problems with mastering the fetch command during obedience training. I would continue to try it. The dog is very smart, you must find the correct device that will make the light in his head turn on when you give the fetch command. Try different things for tobey to fetch. Who knows, something might just work? On the other hand, I have tried for 3 years to teach falcon to fetch the newspaper, he flat refuses. He won't get me my pipe or slippers either. Just something for you to think about. We all get our dogs or canes or whatever to suit our own needs, no one else's. Tobey will do for you what he needs to. Nothing more, nothing less. By the way, did you hear that the seeing eye is now using Poodles? They're telling the new owners that they are long haired shepherds. I wonder what Willie got? You don't suppose they would give him one and not tell him do you? Adios, Henry -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!130!10!Henry.Kasten Internet: Henry.Kasten@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org