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From: dkletter@adobe.COM (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: INDOOR Re: Behavioral Problems - Macaws
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Date: 3 Nov 90 01:50:33 GMT
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In article <155@tivoli.UUCP> lark@tivoli.UUCP (Lar Kaufman) writes:
>Yeah, I bet it _is_ quiet over at that trainer's concentration camp for 
>birds.

really! i mean, it's one thing to say that you shouldn't allow your
amazon or maccaw to make you live in fear, but this is really going
too far!

i would go INSANE if someone put me in a small box that was painted black
on the inside. think about it. this is cruelty. there's got to be
a smarter and BETTER way. i can't believe any intelligent human would
listen to that kind of advice much less USE it.

i am appalled. do unto others as you'd have done unto yourself. my
amazon is a screamer also but i treat her with the kind of respect
that anybody or animal deserves. if it's so untollerable, why not
just give the bird to someone who can tollerate it rather than subject
it to intimidation tactics that are cruel and unfair. your bird will
not only be quiet after a while, but he/she will HATE you and probably
turn on you one day.

i think even Lar's idea of putting the bird in it's own cage in a darkened
room is FAR better than that box.

-- 
Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.