Xref: utzoo sci.engr:326 sci.electronics:15448 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!rutgers!bellcore-2!envy!karn From: karn@envy.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) Newsgroups: sci.engr,sci.electronics Subject: Re: use of inverters with modified sine wave output with computers, etc Keywords: inverter, modified sine wave Message-ID: <1990Nov6.175144@envy.bellcore.com> Date: 6 Nov 90 22:51:44 GMT References: <29237@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Sender: usenet@bellcore.bellcore.com (Poster of News) Reply-To: karn@thumper.bellcore.com Organization: Packet Communications Research Group (Bellcore) Lines: 41 In article <29237@boulder.Colorado.EDU>, gordon@boulder.Colorado.EDU (GORDON ALLEN R) writes: |> Does anyone know of any long term effects of using such an inverter, rather |> one which produces a real sine wave... "Modified sine wave" inverters produce a 50% duty cycle square wave with the same peak and RMS voltage as a sine wave. The output voltage follows the sequence 0, +170V, 0, -170V, ... (170 is sqrt(2)*120, the peak voltage of a 120 V RMS sine wave). Computers and other devices with switching power supplies don't care at all. They directly rectify and filter the AC power line, so as long as the peak waveform voltage is the same (and it is) they'll work fine. Most consumer electronic devices with power transformers also feed rectifier/capacitor filters, so the modified sine waveform will have little effect on them too. There is one exception: line-driven clocks (such as the one in my VCR) will often run at the wrong speed (usually twice as fast). My guess is that they're looking for zero crossings in the AC waveform, and the 4 edges per cycle of the "modified sine wave" fool the zero crossing detectors. Another unit I had problems with is my old Pioneer SX-780 receiver. It has a speaker protection relay with a circuit that, among other things, watches for AC power failure by sampling the power transformer output before the rectifier. This circuit cuts off the speakers before the DC from the power supply begins to collapse, avoiding the turn-off thump that would otherwise occur. This circuit is also fooled by the "modified sine waveform", causing the relay to click on and off continuously (no permanent damage to the unit, though). I've heard claims that conventional core-coil flourescent ballasts will not last as long on modified sine waveform inverters, but I have no direct experience with that. In any event, electronic ballasts are lighter, more efficient and not that more expensive so I buy them in all my compact flourescents. Phil