Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cica!news.cs.indiana.edu!att!cbnews!cbnews!military Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: yf-23 Engines Message-ID: <1990Nov7.040308.13581@cbnews.att.com> Date: 7 Nov 90 04:03:08 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: FidoNet node 1:391/7.0 - Ozark Connection, Fayetteville AR Lines: 20 Approved: military@att.att.com From: p0.f7.n391.z1.fidonet.org!Scott.Johnson (Scott Johnson) DM> reduce the infrared signature of that aircraft. The nozzles DM> did not appear to have any thrust vectoring capabilities, DM> either. I think that the -22 has 2 dimensional nozzels with limited thrust-v capability. I'll go back and check. DM> ineffective at high speeds, and pilots don't like to go slow, DM> just so they can use thrust vectoring. That's not the point of T-V in that application. It is mainly meant to give a shorter takeoff run/higher gross payload. Today's airforce hardware are ground HOGS. If war broke out the runways would be the first target, and almost none of the AF iron can operate without long runways. Their use in combat would be, as you stated, of small use.