Newsgroups: sci.military Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty) Subject: Re: Fates of Battleships Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 03:40:34 GMT Approved: military@att.att.com Message-ID: <1990Nov7.034034.10700@cbnews.att.com> Followup-To: sci.military References: <1990Nov6.042753.29732@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Lines: 46 From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty) a couple of notes on Morgan's list In article <1990Nov6.042753.29732@cbnews.att.com>, Morgan Conrad writes: *U.S.A. * Utah 7 Dec 41 Pearl Harbor Japanese air strike utah was no longer a BB at this time, but a target ship. probably should have been labeled a `conversion' in this list. *Japan * Hiei 13 Nov 42 Guadalcanal cruiser shells, torps i'm not sure that there were any effective torpedoe hits in this battle (the first night of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal) * Kirishima 15 Nov 42 Savo I USS Washington now, is this intended as a battle name or as a location? Kirishima was sunk near Savo Island, but not in `The Battle Of Savo Island', but rather on the last night of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. see Hammel, _Guadalcanal: Decision at Sea_ for a detailed account of the sinkings of Hiei and Kirishima. * Kaga 5 Jun 42 Midway US air strike * Akagi 6 Jun 42 Midway US air strike these were both carrier conversions from capital ships, and so should have been marked with (c) or (d) (i'm not sure which.) * Shinano 29 Nov 44 Cape Muroto torpedoed by USS Archerfish(e) this should have been note (d), not (e) -- Shinano was to have been the third japanese super battleship, but was converted to a carrier on the ways after the losses at Midway. richard -- richard welty 518-387-6346, GE R&D, K1-5C39, Niskayuna, New York welty@lewis.crd.ge.com ...!crdgw1!lewis.crd.ge.com!welty ``We're in a road movie to Berlin, can't drive out the way we drove in'' -- They Might Be Giants