Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!sumax!thebes!polari!crad From: crad@polari.UUCP (Charles Radley) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: LLNL Astronaut Delivery (was Re: You Can't Expect a Space Station) Message-ID: <2677@polari.UUCP> Date: 8 Nov 90 04:07:04 GMT References: <9011061342.AA16405@iti.org> <2669@polari.UUCP> <1990Nov7.175448.17819@zoo.toronto.edu> Organization: Seattle Online Public Unix (206) 328-4944 Lines: 22 Payload Systems did indeed slip through the net. What I mean by that is that they did obtain an export license, but the license was issued by the Department of Commerce, and not by the Department of State. The latter was extremely annoyed, and had strong words to say to the Dept of Commerce. It is now highly unlikely that Commerce will want to incurr the wrath of State again, and are not likely to issue any more licenses without State's approval. Ref USBI and CYSA - there were lots of reports in the media in the summer that an export license had been issued to USBI. However, I never saw a formal announcement. I attended the Vandeburg Space Week conference at the end of July, where Norman Bowles, Associate Director of Licensing Programs at the Department of Transportation stated strongly that the reports in the media were incorrect, and that no formal approval had been given. I still have not seen a formal announcement. Have you ? If on the other hand, USBI did get a license, then it sets a significant precedent. I will investigate the possibility of buying stock in CYSA and/or USBI, since with low cost soviets launch vehicles, they cost to orbit will be unassailable.