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From: gordon@CSSUN.TAMU.EDU (Dan Gordon)
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Subject: Re: Questions regarding Israel
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Date: 8 Nov 90 01:38:40 GMT
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In article <1990Nov6.041954.27132@nntp-server.caltech.edu> soudan@iitmax.iit.edu (Bassel Soudan) writes:
<In article <1990Nov3.210105.11983@nntp-server.caltech.edu> gordon@cssun.tamu.edu (Dan Gordon) writes:
<>This is very interesting. I have also found the following (from the 
<>translation by N. J. Dawood, Penguin Books) Surah 17, verse 103:
<>
<>"He [Pharaoh - mentioned in the previous verse] sought to scare them out
<>of the land: but We drowned him, together with all who were with him. 
<>Then We said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land. When the promise of
<>                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<>the hereafter comes to be fulfilled, We shall assemble you all together.'"
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<>This definitely reads as a promise by God to the Israelites that in the
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<>times shortly preceding the "hereafter", He will gather them all together.
<>It is entirely in agreement with the other above-mentioned prophecies in
<>the Bible.

<	In this verse God is addressing the children of Israel right after
<bieng brought out of Egypt by Moses (may God's peace be upon him). He told
<them to dwell in this land, but then he turns around and tells them and the
<whole of humanity that when the time for the day of judgement comes He will
<gather all the children of Adam (from Adam to the last one of the inhabitants
<of earth when the day of judgement comes) on one land and raise them --just like
<he did when he created them the first time -- for judgement and reward.
<
<	The words "We shall assemble you all together" in the verse mentioned
<above are not for the children of Israel by them selves but rather a reminder
<for the whole of humanity that there is going to be a time when we all will 
<stand together to meet God. The problem is that you are trying to understand
<the verses of Quran without having a complete comprehension of the rest of it.
<Parts of the Quran explain each other. You can not take a verse and build on it
<without considering all the other verses relating to the subject.


Please read the sentence carefully: THEN WE SAID TO THE ISRAELITES:  '...'

The part that I have capitalized precedes the quotes, and it tells us
that the part in quotes is what God told the Israelites. The part in quotes
contains the 2 sentences, but both of them are inside the same quotes and
preceded by the capitalized part. In other words, God is telling us what He
told the Israelites. Are you implying that we are not supposed to read it
as it is? I'm sure you are not suggesting that the Koran is in error. So,
if you think it means something else, please provide a reference that 
explains why this particular sentence should not be read literally.