Xref: utzoo sci.philosophy.tech:3739 comp.ai.philosophy:346 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!miamiu!jahayes From: JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET (Josh Hayes) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Searle, Strong AI, and Chinese Rooms Message-ID: <90318.093900JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET> Date: 14 Nov 90 14:39:00 GMT References: <1990Nov12.122329.15235@daimi.aau.dk> <2460@cod.NOSC.MIL> Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service Lines: 33 What needs defining here is "intelligence", because it seems that Searle has his own definition which _de facto_ includes being a human being, or at least an organic being; it's no surprise then that no machine "intelligence" need apply.... Sven, on the other hand (I have a Colombian friend named Sven; it's an odd name for that part of the world....where was I?) defines intelligence as "that which appears intelligent" (I paraphrase, but I think, fairly). This is a simple definition (though it begs the question of how we determine what "appearing intelligent" is), and is, I think, the relevant definition to the question of A.I. I believe we want a pragmatic definition: what is the PURPOSE of AI? We ostensibly design AIs to perform a task or tasks that we assume to require a degree of intelligence; to the extent that they carry them out well, are they not intelligent? This all ties back to the emergent properties shtick (sorry). The systems reply to Searle's CR analogy is entirely appropriate if we regard "intelligence" as a property of a system as a whole which cannot be said to reside in any particular component of that system. It is the property of the "instruction book" and the "guy who manipulates the symbols" AND the interaction between these sub- systems AND the interaction of that whole system with the outside world (that speaks Chinese to the "Room"). As such, "intelligence" may not be a very useful term, since it's so difficult to pin down, and of course, since it's such a loaded term. ------- Josh Hayes, Zoology Department, Miami University, Oxford OH 45056 voice: 513-529-1679 fax: 513-529-6900 jahayes@miamiu.bitnet, or jahayes@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu "It is always wise to remember that it was the gods who put nipples on men, seeds in pomegranates, and priests in temples."