Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!math.lsa.umich.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: DREUBEN@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Douglas Scott Reuben) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: $4 Per Day Roaming Charge Message-ID: <14684@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 15 Nov 90 07:50:03 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 58 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 820, Message 6 of 8 Some Digest readers mentioned recently that the reason cellular roamers were assesed a "daily charge" was so that the roaming system could cover the costs of verifying with the roamer's home system if the roamer is a customer "in good standing", ie, has paid all the bills, etc. Although I agree that this is necessary and quite desireable, I would tend to argue (as have others) that $2 or 3 per day is WAY too high a charge for such a service. Not only is it too high, but roam rates in some systems (especially those set up along highways on the outskirts of large cities) tend to be SO much higher than a home customer pays that the profit from one 1 minute call alone will probably be enough to cover the costs of verification. (I'm not sure how true this is, but it seems that many smaller systems are set up, if possible, along the periphery of a larger system, generally along a stretch of highway, so that they can "get" customers who live in/use the larger system. IE, I'm driving south of Albany,NY, and once I leave the Albany system there is some system called "Cell One of Upstate New York" [upstate= south of Albany??!!?]) along I-87. This system stays in range for about 25 minutes, and had quite good coverage on the Thruway/I-87. They charge $3 per day to roam, and about 90 cents per minute! I doubt they charge their "home" customers (all 20 of them! :-) ) the same rate. So do they figure they will make a lot of extra $$$$ because they have one or two towers near the Thruway and will pick up Albany customers (or other cusotmers going along I-87) who don't realize that they are in a the "Upstate/Cell One" system?) Moreover, even though there may be costs associated with verification of a roamer, doesn't this occur BOTH ways? IE, although Metrophone/"A"/Phil. may charge ME $3 per day for roaming, Metro Mobile (my 'company') charges the same for Metrophone customers roaming in Metro Mobile's area. So why can't they just say "We'll verify your customers for free if you verify ours for free as well..."? Or do they both make too much money with this example of a 'nickel-and-dime surcharge' that they see no reason to end it? (I don't get charged if I use my Pac*Bell calling card in NY Tel territory for "verification", and NY Tel customer's don't get charged in California, besides local usage rates, or course. I'm sure NY Tel has to verify Pac*Bell cards [one would hope! :-) ], yet they don't charge anything extra. Why do Cell companies think they should be able to do this?) Finally, even if they should be allowed to charge for this, why is it that some companies, like Cell One/Boston, don't charge a daily roam charge? (They don't charge for Metro Mobile or Metro One (NY) customers; they may have other agreements with other carriers.) If they can work out a system where there is NO roam charge as in the case of Boston, what is to prevent this on a uniform, national basis?? Doug dreuben@eagle.wesleyan.edu dreuben@wesleyan.bitnet