Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ucla-cs!lanai.cs.ucla.edu!gast From: gast@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (David Gast) Newsgroups: uk.misc,comp.editors Subject: Re: MKS vi Message-ID: <1990Nov12.064240.5651@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 12 Nov 90 06:42:40 GMT References: <90312.135743QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> Sender: news@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 40 Nntp-Posting-Host: lanai.cs.ucla.edu In article <90312.135743QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes: >Would anyone from an academic site (they tend to have less money :-)) >be willing to share their experiences of this product? Is it worth >it compared to STEVIE for example? Is the support good? Is it a 100% >clone? In general MKS vi and the MKS toolkit in general are excellent. The toolkit includes the Korn Shell and the new version of awk. Chances are that your site does not have those. On the other hand, the price has risen significantly over the past couple years at the same time that they introduced a version for that half an operating system. Using dos without the mks toolkit is like being in a stall without tp. (You can do your work, but it is inconvenient and messy). I have never used stevie, so I cannot comment on that aspect. I have found the support to be acceptable to excellent, but I have never called them up and asked "how do I do X?" There are a few minor differences, at least with the version of vi I am used to. 1) With mks vi using a function key resets dot. I prefer that dot not be reset, but perhaps it was a bug that dot was not reset. 2) There is a known bug with many versions of vi in that "d}" saves 3 copies into the numbered buffers. (It should only save one copy). mks vi does not have this bug. 3) There may be other bug/feature fixes as well. I don't have a list. 4) One trouble I always have with dos is that I invariably hit the backspace key instead of the delete key. With mks vi I tried :map ^H ^V^? but when I then typed backspace, disaster resulted. With my the vi I normally use, there is no such problem. Other than those comments mentioned above, I can think of no differences off the top of my head. It even supports ^Z. David Gast gast@cs.ucla.edu {uunet,ucbvax,rutgers}!{ucla-cs,cs.ucla.edu}!gast