Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!taumet!steve
From: steve@taumet.com (Stephen Clamage)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: EXE file size, C vs. Pascal
Summary: EXE file size is red herring
Message-ID: <510@taumet.com>
Date: 10 Nov 90 16:22:08 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Taumetric Corporation, San Diego
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nuspljj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.) writes:

>Over the past year, I have written several Unix-like commands -- cat, ls, ...
>in Turbo Pascal 5.5.  I have recently rewritten them in Turbo C++ hoping
>to improve speed and/or reduce file size.  The C compiled programs are
>significanly larger.  Cat in Pascal is ~3k, Turbo C ~17, DeSmet C ~10.

Once again, someone is confusing linked program size with efficiency.
If you are going to put this program in ROM, EXE file size is important.
Otherwise, it is likely to be irrelevent.

EXE files may contain data other than program code and data.  It may contain
data which is never loaded into memory, such as debugging information.
Turbo C in particular includes information about exactly which source and
object files were used, and their dates and times, as well as the date and
time of the link.  None of this gets loaded at run time, but it does take up
space.

If you write cat in C in terms of standard I/O (<stdio.h>), you will
be including a lot of library code which has far more capability than
you need for the program.  Depending on how the I/O package is divided
into modules, you may include code which is never executed.  If you
care to sacrifice portability in favor of small EXE size, you can
write in terms of low-level open, close, read, and write calls.  These
are supported by most C systems, and you will not need to link in the
standard I/O package.  The program may be faster as well.

The way to determine which programs are more efficient is to measure
their performance, not to look at the numer of bytes in the EXE file.

You also may wish to consider how easy it is to get the functionality
you need in your program, and how robust your program is likely to be.

I do not claim that you will get better results in C than in Pascal,
but that you are using the wrong criterion for judgement.
-- 

Steve Clamage, TauMetric Corp, steve@taumet.com