Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!apple!agate!belch.Berkeley.EDU!larry From: larry@belch.Berkeley.EDU (Larry Foard) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: "Bad" backups Message-ID: <1990Nov11.204328.27864@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 11 Nov 90 20:43:28 GMT References: <46473@apple.Apple.COM> <4752@rsiatl.UUCP> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California Berkeley Lines: 28 > >I don't know why we spend so much time thinking up trite methods to skirt >the law. The fact is that if reading a tape backup became an issue in The issue isn't skirting the law, it is protecting yourself against witch hunts. >court, and you had the data encrypted, the judge WOULD order you to >reveal the password (I know from experience.), perhaps under seal. If you [stuff deleted] What happened to the fifth admendment? Being forced to provide information that can be used against you certainly would appear to violate your fifth admendment rights. After all if your arrested you are told you have the right to remain silent. True story: A person had stolen equipment from a computer store, and even admited the theft to the owner. When the police went to the person apartment, the person had already consulted with a lawyer who told them to take the fifth. At this point the police claimed they couldn't even get a search warrant on the evidence they had and the whole thing was dropped. This was a real crime and the person got away with it because they kept quite. Either the government cares alots more about stolen $13 telephone documents, than grand larceny, or people investigated in witch hunts make the mistake of thinking innocence will protect thm. and don't excercise there 5th admendment rights. (probably both of the above are true)