Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!emory!att!att!watmath!mwtilden From: mwtilden@watmath.waterloo.edu (M.W.Tilden, Hardware) Newsgroups: comp.robotics Subject: Nitenol msg for cphoenix@csli.stanford.edu Message-ID: <1990Nov11.205704.24949@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: 11 Nov 90 20:57:04 GMT Distribution: comp Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 38 Mail bounced. Relevant to recent posting about nitenol, so I'm posting. ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Subject: Re: Memory Metals Well, the other problem I found is that nitenol distortions do slowly accumulate over time as you flex nitenol from room temperature up (I grant the distortion point probably is not room temperature, but that's what I found with my tests). All the kids toys you might have seen using nitenol use ice as the flex medium. Sub room-temperature mediums help nitenol keep it's 'memory' but are very difficult to implement in a robot limb (unless you pump freon through it, but to what point. If you're going to do all that plumbing, why not just go hydralic?). The nichrome covering is a good idea, but it would only lengthen the efficiency decay, not prevent it. Would nichrome be able to stand the mechanical distortions of the wire? Hmmm. Actually, now that I think of it, it might be possible to make sub-zero robots for work in, say, artic environments with a relatively high reliability. Very little electrical energy would be needed to overcome the latent heat of the wire muscles which could be cooled by the clever application of external heat sinks. It'd be a bitch to design, however. In any case, I won't be impressed until I saw a nitenol robot walk to the North pole. Now that'd be an interesting demonstration. Is all. -- Mark Tilden: _-_-_-__--__--_ /(glitch!) M.F.C.F Hardware Design Lab. -_-___ | \ /\/ U of Waterloo. Ont. Can, N2L-3G1 |__-_-_-| \/ (519) - 885 - 1211 ext.2454, "MY OPINIONS, YOU HEAR!? MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!"