Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Classic_-_Concepts From: Classic_-_Concepts@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: The Art Department and Memory Message-ID: <35817@cup.portal.com> Date: 10 Nov 90 19:02:30 GMT References: <1990Oct25.193715.8382@hayes.ims.alaska.edu> <1990Oct25.224025.7029@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1611@madnix.UUCP> <1990Nov5.053442.4010@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 51 In this discussion of the Art Department, I think it would be appropriate to let people know about TAD's memory requirements. I think it's impor- tant not only because it indicates the direction of Amiga software, but also, in all fairness, should be known to people with 'low-end' systems before they invest money in software they may not be able to use. From the manual: "By its very nature, TAD requires a lot of memory. In fact TAD will utilize as much *contiguous* (emphasis mine) memory as you have on your machine. While it can run in as little as one megabyte of memory, we suggest a minimum of four megabytes of expansion memory in order to get any substantial work accomplished." Point #1 is obvious: with memory getting cheaper and graphics displays increasing in resolution and bitplanes, manufacturers are producing products which require more memory. I'm sure this trend will increase rather than decrease. Point #2 concerns contiguous RAM: If you're thinking of adding expansion memory, I'd strongly recommend against boards which are only expandable to 1 or 2 megs (these recommendations assume your primary interest is graphics on the Amiga) *unless* you can match up boards which address contiguous bytes, or which are configurable. This is usually not the case, however. If you already have expansion RAM and you need more, either sell your existing memory to finance a board which addresses a larger chunk of RAM or check with the manufacturer about the beginning and end addresses and see that they follow one from the other. Unfortunately I got caught by this. I have boards from two different manufacturers (one internal, one external on my 1000) and they were purchased when memory was not cheap. The largest chunk of *contiguous* RAM I can currently address, given that I have to use a big chunk for RAD to make the 1000 even usable, is just over a meg. Not enough to get good use out of the Art Department. So, all of the above is obvious to techies, but there are lots of graphics and video folks out there purchasing Amigas who need to be aware of the above so they can put together a 'workable' system. Since lots of them start with a couple of meg and add on later, I thought a little forewarning might save a few people some frustration in the future. The Art Department looks great. (I just wish I could use it.) Julie Petersen (LadyHawke)