Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga:71733 comp.sys.mac.misc:5772 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:3690 misc.legal:22625 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!batcomputer!munnari.oz.au!goanna!minyos!monu6!rdt155r From: rdt155r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (mr r vanschyndel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.legal Subject: Re: Do *NOT* reveal paper clip trick...NET IMAGE & censorship Message-ID: <1990Nov15.112229.24716@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> Date: 15 Nov 90 11:22:29 GMT References: <2653@ttardis.UUCP> <1990Nov10.063416.5731@ariel.unm.edu> Organization: Caulfield Campus, Monash University, Melb., Australia. Lines: 36 kchiu@triton.unm.edu writes: >In article <2653@ttardis.UUCP> rlw@ttardis.UUCP (Ron Wilson) writes: >>NO!!!! ABSOLUTELY NO!!!! >> >>Do *NOT* reveal, or even mention, any information on how to defeat copy >>protection. In the eyes of the law, doing so reduces the NET to the status >>of a pirate BBS. More importantly, the owners of the systems that make up >>the NET do NOT want the bad public image of pirates and hackers to be >>associated with their systems/companies. If the NET gets a bad image, the >>system owners will pull the plugs on the NET. >> Uhhhhh, I don't really want to get into this argument but I'd just thought I'd mention that a precedent has already been set in Australia on 'net freedom' -- In Australia, we get NO world distribution of several groups on grounds similar to those stated above. They are: alt.sex.* (Maybe the sheer volume???) alt.drugs.* (who knows?) A decision was made, without NET consultation, at the Australian gateway - munnari.oz.au - to filter these groups, resulting in some bitter arguments (with no observable effect, as yet). The counter argument is that these groups are still available via mailing lists etc. But the precedent exists !!! Another RON.... . -- Ron van Schyndel rdt155r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au Physics Department, Monash University rdt155r%monu6.cc.monash.oz@uunet.UU.NET CAULFIELD EAST, Victoria, AUSTRALIA {hplabs,mcvax,uunet,ukc}!munnari!monu6.. Location: 37 52 38.8S 145 02 42.0E Phone: +613-573-2567 Fax: +613-573-2748