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From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
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Subject: Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!!
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Date: 15 Nov 90 03:32:02 GMT
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In-reply-to: DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu's message of 14 Nov 90 21:20:21 GMT

In article <90318.162021DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

   In article <7039@sugar.hackercorp.com>, peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da
   Silva) says:

   >In article <1990Nov14.034507.19784@hoss.unl.edu> 252u3130@fergvax.unl.edu
   >(Phil
   >Dietz) writes:
   >> Hmmmph....with the discussion of wild cards, people have been coming
   >> out of the cracks and harassing ARP.  Boy if my memory works right (256
   >> bit of course), when ARP came out, it was the hottest thing to use.

   >Not me, dude. I've been harassing ARP since the beginning.

   >(a) It's all in assembler. That's a big no-no for me.
   >(b) They never got it all together. It was missing major programs (like copy)
   >    and the programs that did come out tended to have weird bugs (um, non
   >    standard features if you like).

   >I'm sure (b) was due to (a).

Assembler is a minus ? What are you getting at ? Assembler programming
certainly is the best and most taxing way of programming for programmers.
It produces invariably the smallest and fastest code for users. Maybe
programmers who don't write in assembler can be forgiven for their
by their users if they:

        a) use C and the fastest C-compilers on the market

        b) are aware that they are sacrifying the quality of the programm
        and the convinience of the user against their laziness and
        development time.

And now using assembler is a "big no-no" ? What is the world coming to ?

I remember a time when people (e.g. me) wrote full-screen editors
in hex, because they didn't have an assembler and nowadays people write
cr/lf-filters in smalltalk with 200 kb runtime libraries and clocktools
under X-Windows with full debugging information (for the tool and
x-windows, just in case...) at 500 kbytes.

Only slightly exagerating

        Carl Edman

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