Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!decuac!bacchus.pa.dec.com!bacchus!mwm From: mwm@raven.relay.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!! Message-ID: Date: 16 Nov 90 22:46:02 GMT References: <114.273F7E66@myamiga.UUCP> <1990Nov14.034507.19784@hoss.unl.edu> <7039@sugar.hackercorp.com> <90318.162021DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> Sender: news@wrl.dec.com (News) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 27 In-Reply-To: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu's message of 15 Nov 90 03:22:51 GMT In article cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes: I am very happy that there are a few more people out there who give ARP the good grades it deserves. It was and is one of the greatest programmers tools for the amiga and I still use it today. It is to this day the only shell which made all the right design choices, starting from being small and fast to being largly compatible and implemented in as a system library. I'm willing to give it good grades; if you're so desperate for space you're willing to live with buggy and/or non-standard commands, then it's great. But they broke the fastest editor on the Amiga, and I couldn't live with that. I never even tried ASH; it doesn't run on my system, and breaks CLI scripts on other peoples systems. WShell, on the other hand, has all the features you applaud in ASH, doesn't break CLI scripts (though even WShell isn't 100% compatable, but Bill tries _very_ hard to make it so), and runs reasonably on my system. BTW - I'm not desperate for space; I keep the arp stuff installed on the off chance that I get something that actually _needs_ one of the incompatabilities of the ARP commands. I just never use them myself.