Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!ubc-cs!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!physics.utoronto.ca!neufeld From: neufeld@physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: an Idle Apple... Message-ID: <1990Nov9.195818.26230@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> Date: 10 Nov 90 00:58:18 GMT References: <*D$^=0+@rpi.edu> Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA Lines: 29 In article <*D$^=0+@rpi.edu> dragon@pawl.rpi.edu (Dragon) writes: >Has anyone else had any troubles with their systems crashing when they are > left alone for short periods of time? Programs seem to crash into the > monitor for no apparent reason. Any application that uses GS/OS or > ProDOS 16 gives me this problem, especially when dialog windows are open for > more that 10ish seconds without any mouse movement. Games also seem to die > after being left in pause more for more than a minute or so. Has anyone else > run into this annoying bug, and is there a way to get rid of it? > Boy, do I remember this one! I spent some weeks trying to figure out why all my GS specific programs were crashing if the ADB line was idle for more than about a minute. The problem turned out to be bad RAM in the second 256kB (i.e. the first populated bank on the RAM card). The annoying thing was that the problems didn't show up on the RAM test because the computer had to be warm, and the keyboard had to be left alone for a minute. I ran the RAM check program about eight times, with no bad chips reported, and then suddenly it showed seven chips bad out of eight on a later run of the program. I replaced them all, of course. Those were the RAM chips which came with my Applied Engineering GS-RAM card. I made it a point to buy only japanese made chips from then on. I've got 1.75MB now, and no more problems. -- Christopher Neufeld....Just a graduate student | neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca Ad astra! | S = k log W cneufeld@{pnet91,pro-micol}.cts.com | Boltzmann's epitaph "Don't edit reality for the sake of simplicity" |