Xref: utzoo comp.sys.apple2:8556 comp.sys.amiga:71823 comp.sys.mac.misc:5825 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:3747 misc.legal:22657 rec.music.synth:17192 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!hacgate!pixel!tucker From: tucker@pixel.HAC.COM (George Tucker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.legal,rec.music.synth Subject: Re: Do *NOT* reveal or mention "hacking" information (was Re: paper clip trick) Message-ID: <11799@hacgate.UUCP> Date: 16 Nov 90 03:05:13 GMT References: <2653@ttardis.UUCP> Sender: news@hacgate.UUCP Reply-To: tucker@pixel.hac.com (George Tucker) Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA Lines: 14 If someone steals some software covered by a shrinkwrap license (2 cases, contract signed or not signed by original user), would the person who bought it (and perhaps signed the agreement) or the firm that produced it have to complain in order for it to be a crime? The purchaser does not really own it, but the producer receives no benefit from it after it is purchased. If the thief distributes it, who is at fault? The thief, after all, did not sign a license agreeement or even have the opportunity to sign one. Or is he/she a thief since no one owned the property? Does it belong to a different party depending on how it is stolen - the user if the physical medium is stolen, and the producer if only an electronic copy is taken? Just curious.