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From: ESR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Ed Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Help needed to set up RAM
Message-ID: <90320.091131ESR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Date: 16 Nov 90 17:11:31 GMT
References: <1990Nov16.041239.27258@hellgate.utah.edu>
 <1990Nov16.131320.28506@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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>From: jw2b@watt.acc.Virginia.EDU (Sara J. Wagner)
>Subject: Re: Help needed to set up RAM
>Date: 16 Nov 90 13:13:20 GMT
>
>In article <1990Nov16.041239.27258@hellgate.utah.edu>
>cyang%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Cheng Yang) writes:
>>Hi, my 286 system has 2 MB RAM.  And I am running DOS 4.01 on my machine.
>>[deleted...]
>>I prefer to have 64K memory to be set as extended memory.(to use the
>>HIMEM.SYS drive provided in DOS 4.01)  I could not find a way to do that.
>>
>>In order to run HIMEM.SYS, I have to give up the expanded memory.  If I want
>>to have EMS, I can't run HIMEM.SYS.  Is there a way to reduce the EMS for
>>4 pages (64K) so that I set it to extended memory? [more deleted]
>>Cheng Yang
>
>I can't help with the technical question, but my experience has been
>precisely the opposite -- I have 2 MB RAM on my 286 that is configured
>as extended memory, and is just about worthless as such.  I have been
>trying for months to find some way to convert this extended memory to
>expanded memory, so that programs such as Lotus and WordPerfect can use
>the expanded memory.  All of the simulators I have downloaded and tried
>take up too much of the base 640K -- some of my programs require a
>minimum of 512K free to run.
>
>Unless you have some programs that require EXTENDED memory rather than
>EXPANDED, I wouldn't try to convert -- expanded memory is much more
>useful, IMO.

For 386 machines QEMM-386 (Quarterdeck) and another package whose name I
forget (QMAX?) may be useful.  For 286 machines, I think QRAM by Quarterdeck
may be worth looking at.