Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!udel!princeton!njin!uupsi!rodan.acs.syr.edu!patrinos From: patrinos@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Anthony J. Patrinos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Scientific Spreadsheet? WingZ is crap! Summary: Wingz tips Keywords: Wingz, macros, defaults Message-ID: <1990Nov16.025616.878@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Date: 16 Nov 90 02:56:16 GMT Expires: Never References: <1990Nov15.100655.3353@csc.anu.oz.au> <1990Nov15.142402.9037@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Sender: Anthony J. Patrinos Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY Lines: 87 In article mday@pollack.mmwb.ucsf.edu (Mark Day) writes: >mike@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (Michael Kerner) writes: > >>Sorry, dude, but I like WingZ. The way that I look at it, at least I could >>rewrite the entire program using the scripting functions. I dunno. I >>hate Excel and can't do enough with WingZ. You're right that in some cases >>WingZ is a pain, but I think that it's a minority of the time. > ^^^^^^^^ >Not for me. I notice the clumsiness of the WingZ interface *every* time I use it. >I put up with it because it runs on our SPARCS (if Campus Technology would ever >ship our order) as well as Macs. (BTW, I think that this type of cross platform >compatiblilty will become much more prevalent in the future) > >The crux of the matter for me is that simple actions that I repeat all of the time >can take way too much effort on WingZ. To wit: > >1. After RTFM, I haven't found a way to set the default font. Everytime I start > up, there's Geneva staring me in the face. Not real useful to anyone using > a LaserWriter. > >2. Changing style attributes involves *way* too many hierarchical menus. > Separate ones for font, style, size, justification, etc. They desperately > need a dialog box that allows you to set all these attributes at once. > > >Decent product, lousy interface. >Just my 2 cents... >Mark Day >Dept. of Pharmaceutical Chemistry mday@zeno.mmwb.ucsf.edu >University of California, San Francisco ..ucbvax!ucsfcgl!mday >Voice: (415) 476-5326 FAX: (415) 476-0688 To: mday@pollack.mmwb.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: Scientific Spreadsheet? WingZ is crap! Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps In-Reply-To: References: <1990Nov15.100655.3353@csc.anu.oz.au> <1990Nov15.142402.9037@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY Cc: Bcc: In article you write: ... > >>Sorry, dude, but I like WingZ. The way that I look at it, at least I could >>rewrite the entire program using the scripting functions. I dunno. I >>hate Excel and can't do enough with WingZ. You're right that in some cases >>WingZ is a pain, but I think that it's a minority of the time. > ^^^^^^^^ >Not for me. I notice the clumsiness of the WingZ interface *every* time I use it. >I put up with it because it runs on our SPARCS (if Campus Technology would ever >ship our order) as well as Macs. (BTW, I think that this type of cross platform >compatiblilty will become much more prevalent in the future) > >The crux of the matter for me is that simple actions that I repeat all of the time >can take way too much effort on WingZ. To wit: > >1. After RTFM, I haven't found a way to set the default font. Everytime I start > up, there's Geneva staring me in the face. Not real useful to anyone using > a LaserWriter. > >2. Changing style attributes involves *way* too many hierarchical menus. > Separate ones for font, style, size, justification, etc. They desperately > need a dialog box that allows you to set all these attributes at once. > > >Decent product, lousy interface. >Just my 2 cents... >Mark Day >Dept. of Pharmaceutical Chemistry mday@zeno.mmwb.ucsf.edu >University of California, San Francisco ..ucbvax!ucsfcgl!mday >Voice: (415) 476-5326 FAX: (415) 476-0688 It's fairly easy in Wingz to write macros (either using Hyperscript or recording the keyboard and mouse actions). Writing a macro to globally change the font attributes and saving it as Startup would make it be invoked every time you start the program. The menus in Wings are fully customizable, so if you don't like them you can change their positions, add new ones or remove the ones you don't need. The manual has examples of how this can be done. (Again, saving everything in the Startup macro sheet makes the changes essentially become defaults.) Regards Tony Patrinos