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From: johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu
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Subject: Re: Pllleeeaasse help me (file transfer vie. network)
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Date: 15 Nov 90 05:49:12 GMT
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In article <1990Nov15.022708.6324@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, topix@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (R. Munroe) writes.
>In article <1990Nov14.194720.19950@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc0849@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Human1 ~InnerTangent~) writes:

>>cond. We have software on these Macs that let us loggin into the UNIX 
>>BSD machine.  No problem.  But, when it comes to transfering files, it
>>only support something called "MacBinary".  not Zmodem, Ymodem, or Xmodem.

>>      Is there a solution to my problem?  
>>
>>      (Please reply by net-mail.  I'll post a summary here later.)

My net-mail reply bounced, and I think that the last follow-up may have
missed an important point.  The 'software' described above sounds 
suspiciously like NCSA telnet; it's the only terminal emulation package
I can think of with the word MacBinary as a main menu item.

If so, the excellent description of unix kermiting posted by 
<topix@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> neglects the really easy way of 
doing host <--> Mac transfers!  NCSA telnet can be set up to 
gives the Mac its own IP address.  The ftp process is initiated with
a simple menu command; the user need only set the file type to binary
or ascii and then get and put.  The implementation of ftp is fairly
robust:  if the user imagines that the Mac is a remote host, the 
familiar ftp commands are available.  For example, the command 'ls'
lists Mac directories, 'cd' changes volume/path, and 'get' sends a
file from the Mac to the host.  Seems backwards at first, but it
sure as hell is fast!

So, Bill (maxc0849@ucselx.sdsu.edu), I think you're actually one of
the *lucky* ones.  If they could only get NCSA telnet and ftp to work
by modem on my noisy phone line!  ........ ;-)

Bill (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu)