Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!mts.rpi.edu!Garance_Drosehn From: Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu (Garance Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: proposal: comp.sys.mac.NeXT Message-ID: Date: 9 Nov 90 05:16:20 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. Lines: 55 References:<15460@slice.ooc.uva.nl> <1990Nov8.201931.16106@athena.mit.edu> <1990Nov8.230907.12910@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <1990Nov8.230907.12910@agate.berkeley.edu> knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) writes: > Just remember that the Mac got where it was because of word of mouth and > evangelism. Funny, I bought a Mac because I liked it when I saw it. I did not have someone running around into every computer discussion I was in and saying "Dump what you got, get a Mac". And I was somewhat more interested in the new NeXT machines before the persistent thread of NeXT advertisements poured into this newsgroup. We have had someone in this thread say that "they definitely plan to buy a NeXT" (note, a NeXT) but that they thought the Mac still had the advantage because "NeXT does not have color as an option". How can we take an article like this seriously? Here someone is trying to tell us that they are willing to spend thousands of dollars on a machine, when they know so little about that machine that they don't even know it has color as an option. Every NeXT article I've seen for the last few months has mentioned color, how can it be that this person has missed it? But, of course, it was good for twenty-odd messages where everyone "cleared up" this poor persons facts, going to great detail about color on the NeXT. Didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, but apparently this NeXT user didn't know it and felt it was important to bring up this ignorance in a Mac newsgroup. Me, I would have asked in a NeXT newsgroup, but then I'm just a silly person who looks at the name of the newsgroup before I post. Maybe Mac users were just as obnoxious in the early days of the Mac. All I'm saying is that I didn't get hit with them if they were around. I bought the Mac because I liked it. Someday I might buy the NeXT machine (honest, I do think it is interesting in many ways), but I won't need to post messages in the wrong newsgroup to make up my mind. I was really interested in the original NeXT until I got my hands on one. I refuse to make any decision on the new NeXT unless I get my hands on one. Once burned, twice shy. And no matter how many articles are posted in this newgroup, my decision will be based on that experience and not on how much the NeXT afficiandos try to tell me about chip speeds or the number of device drivers that are available for a NeXT. It certainly won't be decided on the fact that Lotus (tremendous source of innovative software that it is) is making things for the NeXT platform. Given the track record they have had in the Mac world, I'd almost think that was a mark against NeXT. But I believe that Wingz has a NeXT version, so I'm not going to toss out the NeXT just because Lotus is developing on it. However, to stick to the subject on this thread, if any of this "excuse me while I ram this information down your throat" discussions have to go on, I think they should go on in an appropriately named newsgroup. Maybe have a comp.sys.mac.vs.next and a comp.sys.next.vs.mac, and have all articles cross-posted to both, so no one has to feel bad about which machine is mentioned first in the newsgroup name. Garance_Alistair_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY. USA