Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!knrgroup
From: knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!!
Message-ID: <1990Nov12.040839.3104@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: 12 Nov 90 04:08:39 GMT
References: <8Q^^8^%@rpi.edu> <1990Nov12.002503.20363@agate.berkeley.edu> <NV^^8A%@rpi.edu>
Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator)
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 44

I wrote:
>>Yes, let's stick to reality.  John Sculley stated on Compuserve last week 
>>that there is no unofficial or official release date for System 7.0. This may
>>very well signal that even the Summer 1991 speculation has no basis in fact.

gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu replies:
>Yes, and it may signal that System 7.0 will have protected memory, preemptive
>multitasking, etc.  Sheesh.  It doesn't "signal" anything.  If you want to put
>a negative spin on it, that's your right, but please don't clutter up this
>newsgroup with it.  

You may not like to face the facts, but a statement from a CEO that there has
been no date set for release of a product is a BAD sign.  The kind of sign 
that sends stock prices down.  Moreover, although you are probably not aware
of this fact, Sculley also stated that the features for System 7.0 have been
frozen.  There will not be any additions (i.e., no preemptive multitasking).
It's just taking them this long to implement and debug the features they've
already promised.  Try to put a positive spin on that!

I wrote:
>>The funny thing is, System 7.0 will not be functional or as nice-looking as 
>>the NeXT's already shipped OS.  Apple is really dragging its anchor in 
>>this puddle. 

gft_robert replies:
>Given your admitted ignorance of the Macintosh I would be very suprised if you
>were well-informed about System 7.0's full range of capabilities.  

My admitted ignorance of the Mac?  I like to think that I know more about the
Mac than the average Mac user, having owned a Mac SE for several years and 
being a programmer.  However, I don't know the Mac inside/out as many on
Usenet seem to know it.  I am learning a lot of new facts about the Mac
from this discussion.

At one time or another, I have read or heard about most of the features that
will be in System 7.0.  My usual reaction was, "Big deal.  The feature is
already there on the NeXT and is more fully implemented than it will ever
be on the Mac." 

>Just out of curiosity, does the Next OS support "subscribe and publish"?

My memory is fuzzy, but is this the feature that lets applications talk to
and use each other?  That feature is indeed on the NeXT and in very
common use among existing NeXT applications.