Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!knrgroup From: knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!! Message-ID: <1990Nov13.031817.14464@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 13 Nov 90 03:18:17 GMT References: <1990Nov10.015237.3468@athena.mit.edu> <1990Nov10.022306.6551@agate.berkeley.edu> <108620@convex.convex.com> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 44 Whoa! I haven't read so many misinformed statements about the NeXT from one person since Bill Gates gave his last interview :-). I'll try to tackle as many of them as I can, but it's going to to be gargantuan typing job. ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes: >You know, this is getting boring... Au contraire, it's just heating up. And if you are bored, why are you making so writing so many posts on this topic? >First you tell us that companies that develop for the Macintosh have >no credibility when they comment on the NeXT. Not true. Several Mac developers are also NeXT developers. I merely argued that if a company has a hardware or software product in competition with NeXT or NeXTStep (incl. Interface Builder, et al), they are not going to be objective in their opinions. >Then you repeat statements like this which come right out of NeXT, Inc. >press releases. Could NeXT itself possible have a vested interest >in its own survival. First, what fool would think a company like NeXT would announce in a press release that certain software companies had no credibility re the NeXT? Just a rhetorical question. Secondly, I would not trust what NeXT says about its competitors. Likewise, I don't trust what its competitors say about NeXT. But, apparently, you have no qualms about doing this. >...could you, as a third-party developer for the NeXT, have the same >conflict of interest you accuse others of? Now, how did you know I was a third-party developer for NeXT? Could it be that I actually told everyone here that I was? Yes, it was! I don't claim to be the paragon of objectivity; no one is. However, when someone makes negative or positive comments about a product, that person's biases should be up front for everyone to see. So I told everyone that I was a NeXT developer. However, I don't think MacWorld told anyone about Symantec's possible conflict of interest when they published the statement from Symantec's president. Nor did the New York Times say anything about Bill Gate's conflict of interest when they quoted him on the NeXT. So what's the basis for your bias?