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From: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (Quaestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Not another NeXT defector???!!!
Message-ID: <530@caslon.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: 14 Nov 90 21:40:31 GMT
References: <1990Nov13.042741.12222@eng.umd.edu> <1990Nov13.054334.22595@agate.berkeley.edu> <525@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> <1990Nov14.052446.9290@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
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In article <1990Nov14.052446.9290@agate.berkeley.edu> knrgroup@garnet.berkeley.edu (Raymond group) writes:
>He wrote:
>>>So why buy a Mac IIsi, Mac II, Mac IIci, Mac SE/30 et al, since you
>>>could buy a NeXT for about the same price or MUCH cheaper in some
>>>cases
>
>I wrote:
>>    BUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZ!!!  Thank you for playing
>>  I think you should come down from your NeXT superiority complex with
>>the facts 
>>  WE ALL KNOW that one (at a Univ) can acquire a IIsi for $3000 and a
>>SE/30 for $2500
>
>Excuse me.  Buy a NeXT from your very own school.  It'll cost you $2995.  Yes,
>the U. of Arizona is selling the NeXTstation for $2995.  I would say that
>this is "about the same price" as a Mac IIsi and the $2500 SE/30.  As
>for hardware, performance, and features, the NeXT blows both machines
>away.

  I have the product pricing list right here, and the NeXT is $3200.  Oh boy,
$200 more.  What a big deal, you say?
  Well, I will be upgrading to a IIsi in hopefully a coupla months.  Now the
IIsi will cost me about $3200 with the keyboard and other expenses, but the
one thing that cannot be figured into the cost is all the software on my
Plus that I will be *keeping*, not having to get rid of since Mac does not
equal NeXT and vice-versa.  *That's* where I'm saving money.  But that's
just the situation that I'm in.  It doesn't apply to anyone but me.
  
  I just want to make this clear to everyone.  I was not trying to say that
a SE/30 or a IIsi or even a IIci is comparable to a NeXT.  I was just trying
to put in the facts that the original posting.  Thats what we need here
in this flamewar - the facts!

  I think we need to make a few rules here regarding posting in this flamewar.
	1) All postings must have *documented* proof of all facts, prices,
	   and any other specific things.  A simple listing at the end of
	   the message with footnotes will do, thank you.
	2) No rumors, "I heard from a friend", or otherwise damn lies.
	3) Anyone caught breaking these rules will be forced to own an 8086
	   clone and will not be allowed to upgrade it.  The will also have
	   to suffer with CGA.  The uncompatabilty promblems alone should
	   make them sorry for the rest of their life for not telling the
	   truth!

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