Xref: utzoo rec.music.synth:17114 comp.sys.apple2:8476 comp.sys.amiga:71675 comp.sys.mac.misc:5745 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:3650 misc.legal:22604 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news From: stevo@uniblab.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Steve Groom) Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.legal Subject: Re: Do *NOT* reveal or mention "hacking" information (was Re: paper clip trick) Message-ID: <1990Nov15.000626.25016@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 15 Nov 90 00:06:26 GMT References: <2716@polari.UUCP> <11071@milton.u.washington.edu> <1990Nov14.225343.4867@isis.cs.du.edu> Sender: news@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Usenet) Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Lines: 36 Nntp-Posting-Host: uniblab.jpl.nasa.gov [ re: subverting copy protection ] In article <1990Nov14.225343.4867@isis.cs.du.edu> kreme@isis.UUCP (Name? I don't need no stinking name!) writes: >IT IS NOT ILLEGAL. You have every right to subvert copy protection. You can >do anything you want to the program, you OWN it. You can change it, modify ^^^^^^^^^^ >it, rewrite it, whatever you want. The only thing you can't do is DISTRIBUTE >what you've done. There is NOTHING illegal about removing copy ptotection code >from a program. Not according to the United States Code at least... However, some software packages clearly state that you are not purchasing a copy of the software, but that you are purchasing a license to use the software. They may also state that the actual software remains the property of the seller, and that the money you paid went only for a license. In this case, you DON'T own it, you're just using a copy supplied with the license. The diskettes in the box still belong to the company, they're just being loaned to you because you hold a valid license. They may continue to say that the software falls under the category of "Trade Secret", and that attempting to reverse-engineer or alter the software may not only be a violation of the license, but also grounds for civil action. As for the *illegality* of such a violation of license, I don't know. "Trade Secrets" are another issue altogether. The consequences are unclear, but what is clear is that just because you purchased the latest-and-greatest from XYZ software you don't necessarily have the right to do what you want with it or to it. Read the license. There's a reason they make you open the triple-sealed packages to get to the diskettes. If you don't like the license don't use the software. -- Steve Groom, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA stevo@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov {ames,usc}!elroy!stevo