Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!news From: mings@comix.cs.uoregon.edu (Ming Yau So) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Some questions to APPLE Message-ID: <1990Nov15.044137.13223@cs.uoregon.edu> Date: 15 Nov 90 04:41:37 GMT Sender: mings@comix.cs.uoregon.edu (Ming Yau So) Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Oregon Lines: 67 Did any of you out there have ever think of asking APPLE the following questions ? 1. Why did they make the IIsi so small so that only third-height internal harddisk could be used ? I know someone (and probably APPLE, too) said that it is because APPLE want to lower the cost of IIsi, and a half/full-height harddisk needs a bigger power supply, which will raise the cost also. I know this is true, but how much extra it cost to make a bigger case and use a bigger power supply ? $100 ? $200 ? I guess it won't be more than $200. But cares about that 200 dollars when your investment is about $3,000. And with that extra $200, you can buy a much bigger and cheaper harddisk to install it into the IIsi (the biggest third-height HD in the current market is ~80MB). So, APPLE, is this how you force people not to buy the cheaper IIsi, and go to buy the expensive IIci, if they want to put a bigger than 80MB HD into the machine ? 2. From the recent Mac vs NeXT war, we know that NeXT sells their '030 and '040 workstation at about $3,000 to $4,000 (educational price), and this price already include a MegaPixel monitor, keyboard, mouse, HD, FDHD, bundled software, and _PostScript_. So why do APPLE still sells the IIci cpu at about $4,000 and the IIfx cpu at about $6,000 (with educational discount) ? Remember that these prices does not include monitor, keyboard, bundled software except HyperCard), and PostScript; and given that the NeXTs has higher performance than the IIci and IIfx. So, APPLE, what's your pricing policy/scheme ? 3. APPLE said that one reason why they decided not to put an expansion slot in the new MacClassic as they do in the SE is becuase they found that less than 10% of the SE have make use of the slot. But why don't APPLE make the survey after they have officially released system 7.0 ? Bare in mind that, if you want to take the advantages (TrueType, virtual memory) of 7.0, you must have a fast Mac, and have an MMU in the Mac, but since 7.0 hasn't officially released yet, all of the users, as well as the third-party hardware manufacturers, do not know if any accelerator card is compatible with 7.0 or not. It is very likely that many SE owner will make use of the expansion slot after 7.0 has officially released, not before, because they don't know which card should they buy. Though we may upgrade the Classic just like we can upgrade the Plus, it is not as easy as upgrading an SE. So, APPLE, is this how you force your customers not to upgrade the cheaper Macs with third-party hardware and go to buy a more expensive Mac ? 4. Why did APPLE cut the IIcx line ? The IIcx is the only '030 Mac II which does not cause so many problems as the IIci and IIfx do, especially in software incompatiblilty. Futhermore, it is the only not-so-expensive Mac II which gives you a lot of expandablilty: it has 3 NuBus slots, the IIsi only has 1 (optional), that means you cannot add an accelerator to the IIsi if you want to use it with a third-party monitor while it is possible on a IIcx and still 1 more NuBus left unused. If APPLE could change the IIcx ROM to 512K (which is easy to do), I think more people will like it than the IIsi, though it might be a little more expensive than the IIsi. So, APPLE, is this how you force people who want a Mac II but does not have too much money to buy a new yet but not-so-good IIsi ? Any feedback is welcome, especially from APPLE (hear, APPLE ?). ___________________________________________________________________________ Ming Yau So | I only speak for myself. P.O.Box 3795 Eugene OR 97403 | BECAUSE Internet: mings@cs.uoregon.edu | I only know what I think. American Online: Ming So |___________________________________