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From: bennett@adobe.COM (Bennett Leeds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NOT (click to type) in NeXTStep?
Message-ID: <8040@adobe.UUCP>
Date: 8 Nov 90 03:07:34 GMT
References: <1990Oct28.165341.6949@cs.cmu.edu> <1990Nov6.075323.3326@engin.umich.edu> <1990Nov6.183235.27279@mcs.anl.gov>
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In article <1990Nov6.183235.27279@mcs.anl.gov> korp@atlantis.ees.anl.gov (Peter Korp) writes:
>{...} Now, have NeXT put the
>support for "pseudo" follow the cursor back into NeXTStep. It was there in
>0.8 where by holding alt-cmd down and click would make a window input
>sensitive but leave it where it was in the tree hierarchy.
>
>Why did this disappear? Will it come back? 

	I would like to second this request. In keeping with a desktop metaphor, one
does not have to bring every piece of paper one wishes to write on to the top of the
stack. This is what NeXT forces you to do. Everytime. This makes it particularly
difficult to read one window while typing in another app (the window being typed in pops
to the top and covers the window being read). I usually resort to Command-clicking the
new key window (this after clicking to make it key): thus sending it to the bottom of
the stack, but keeping it the key window. 

	Another related, but not as serious, problem occurs when trying to read panels
in an app that automatically hide themselves when the app is not the current app.
I can't read the information in the panel while I'm typing in Terminal or Edit (and,
I can't select the infomation in the panel and copy it to the Pasteboard).  I would 
appreciate having a means to select an app, telling the previously active app NOT to 
hide its panels (either for copying purposes or because I'm coming right back to it
after starting this background task).


>Is the Black Hole really gone forever?
>Peter

	The recycler metaphor works better, IMHO.  With a true black hole you would
never be able to exceed the pull of gravity enough to get your files back out. With
a recycling bin you can get your files out before the bin itself is dumped; after that
you get the raw bits back to make into new files. Pretty smooth, if you ask me.

	Now, (smileys on :-} ) if you were to Command-drag your files to the recycler,
then the bin icon should change to the black hole icon and act as if you did a 
Command-r (or for you Unix buffs an "rm") and destroy the file(s) with no hope of later 
data recovery.

	- Bennett