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From: edwardj@microsoft.UUCP (Edward JUNG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: development suggestions for the NeXt
Message-ID: <59047@microsoft.UUCP>
Date: 13 Nov 90 04:09:46 GMT
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In article <4011@network.ucsd.edu> pbiron@weber.ucsd.edu (Paul Biron) writes:
[...]
>machines (yeah!).   How about bundling a good "intro" to unix book
>as well?  Make a deal with the publisher of one of the following
>books (or any other "intro" to unix book) and ship the book
>(either hard or soft copy version would be fine) with every new machine:
[...]
>UNIX for people : a modular guide to the UNIX operating system : visual
>   editing, document preparation, & other resources / Peter M. Birns, Patrick
>   B. Brown, John C. C. Muster.  Englewood Cliffs, N.J. : Prentice-Hall, c1985.

This is interesting since, as I recall, Peter Birns is now at NeXT as
a guy on their developers education group (or something like that).
One would hope that this means that there is someone who can become
proactive about having good learning and tutorial tools on the NeXT
machine.

I do, however, take exception to the assertation that the NeXT machine
has good backup utilities (eg just because it is Unix).  On the contrary,
the backup tools are very poor, non-user friendly in operation, error
reporting, and documentation, and in many cases (eg OD and backup/restore)
plain non-functional for practical use.

Hopefully these things are fixed in the release of 2.0.

--
Edward Jung
Microsoft Corp.

My opinions do not reflect any policy of my employer.