Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!smsc.sony.com!dce From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: HELP ME PLEASE!!! Message-ID: <1990Nov11.003127.24277@smsc.sony.com> Date: 11 Nov 90 00:31:27 GMT References: <17304@yunexus.YorkU.CA> <1990Nov10.162446.20443@smsc.sony.com> <12128:Nov1017:48:5690@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Organization: Sony Microsystems Corp, San Jose, CA Lines: 23 In article <12128:Nov1017:48:5690@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >In article <1990Nov10.162446.20443@smsc.sony.com> dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) writes: >> On the other hand, the they really want >> to dig in and become a competent Unix user/programmer or a systems >> developer, there's no substitute for sitting down and reading the >> manuals from cover to cover. > >I disagree. Reading the man pages is like reading a book on how a bike >works. You'll never learn to ride a bike if you don't get out there and >start practicing! You're absolutely right. I didn't mean that just reading the manual was a subsitute for programming. I meant that it was a substitute for having someone hold your hand to learn Unix. In fact, I feel that reading the manual is superior to hand-holding for the beginner because it piques one's curiosity. There's nothing like finding out that there's a command like "comm" or "rev" to make someone think. Of course, it's nice to have experts around when you are getting into the tough parts. I was lucky to have experts like Steve Glaser, Andy Crump, and Brad Needham around to get me through that middle period.