Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!umich!umeecs!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!dmshq!com50!rosevax!atc!mike From: mike@atc.SP.Unisys.COM (Mike Grenier) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: RE: RLL and ESIX Message-ID: <1990Nov9.213827.1059@atc.SP.Unisys.COM> Date: 9 Nov 90 21:38:27 GMT References: <1990Nov7.051419.19612@karnak.cactus.org> Organization: Unisys - Air Traffic Control Lines: 50 From article <1990Nov7.051419.19612@karnak.cactus.org>, by john@karnak.cactus.org (John B. Meaders Jr.): > In article <1990Nov6.002853.582@medtron.medtronic.com> dt4100c@medtron.medtronic.com (Derek Terveer) writes: >> >>I have never been able to get rll controllers to work reliably with either rev c >>or rev d of esix. > > I have one running under Rev D (2 floppy, 2 disks Western Digital plain jane > 16 bit type). My AMI 386 BIOS does let me define my own drive type though > so I can set it to ST-251 with 26 sectors instead of 17 sectors. > -- Yes, but can you get it to work with the Fast File System? I also have the Western Digital plain jane (WD1003-SR2) with my AMI bios but ESIX consistantly panics in the routine echd_read_vtoc() when booting the box after the tenth distribution floppy. My disk is somewhat bigger than yours, .i.e 250 meg. The S51K file system works fine. Of course, my Adaptec 2372 disk controller wasn't supported at all with panics in the hdintr() routine. This forced me to buy the slower WD card only to find out that the fast file system didn't work. The WD1006-SR2 can also panic when accessing the raw drive : .i.e use 2 drives and do a mkpart -v on the second one while compiling something big on the first. Using /etc/crash, it appeared that the user space wwas not locked in memory causing a page fault in hdintr(). But that's not so bad. The Furture Domain scsi card just gave me errors something like "HA 1 has no TAs" when connecting to the Wren Drive under ESIX...more money down the drain The Adaptec driver does bad things when using multiple SCSI drives. In particular, if a bad block occurs on the second drive, ESIX will attempt to reread the block on the first drive...this can be really bad. (We ended up using a SCSI analyzer to track that one down :-) The Scsi Device Interface (SDI) also doesn't seem to work correctly with examples taken right out fo the AT&T manual failing the SDI_SEND ioctl. This only describes the problems I've had with the hard disk drivers. As you can tell, I wouldn't recommend ESIX to my cat let alone a UNIX user. So far, I've swapped in my printer driver and the FAS serial driver and am using the ST01 scsi controller for the Wren drives. One thing I can say for Microport, my old UNIX System V/386 Release 3.0e was rock solid on the same hardware. You can guess which vendor will be supplying our UNIX V.4 -Mike Grenier mike@cimcor.mn.org mike@sp.unisys.com