Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: uwm!decwrl!cae780!donald@mps.ohio-state.edu (Donald Maffly) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Re: Suggestions for a Novice? Message-ID: <7665@uwm.edu> Date: 15 Nov 90 14:55:04 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 45 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu I was in a similar situation to you about a year ago. I'd suggest that before you go out and blow the 4K, do some reading up, and alot of auditioning. If you can find the components you want on the used market you can probably get away with spending less than 2K. On a 4K budget, I'd go with B&K or Adcom separates (i.e amp and pre-amp). You could expect to spend just 1K in that department, and have 3K left over. I like the Denon CD players, although I've never heard of the 2560. Don't you mean the 1560? It's very detailed compared to the others I've heard. They do, however, have a cold analytical typically Japanese sound. The Sony ES series players supposedly sound a bit warmer, and they are just as detailed. The new Sony ES (is it the 55??) is a one-bit player (the latest DA technolog) but I don't think it has a digital out (which is important if you want to upgrade later with an outboard DA converter). The Harman Kardon one-bit players are good, too. They are detailed, AND warm. A true budget audiophile player player would be the new Mod Squad, or the Adcom. So say another 750-1000 on a CD player. This leaves you with about 2K on speakers. There are such big differences in the sound of Speakers that you should really go out there and spend a few weeks, if not months auditioning different models. Don't just go on hearsay. KEF has a good reputation as a speaker maker, but I believe they are a British make -- meaning that you will be paying more for them than you would at for an American make at the same quality level. American makes that I'd suggest you listen to are: Vandersteens 2ci -- at $1100 dollars is known for making good deep bass. Theil 1, -- $1200 -- very articulate in the highs Spica Angelus -- $1300 great imaging, but not alot of deep bass The Audio Anarchist column in Stereophile did a comarison of these three models within the last year. Also the Theil 2.5 -- $2400 -- proabably like the Theil 1 but with more bass. So we are talking 3K, which gives you 1K left over to buy some good source material, or for a turntable or various tweaking items. -- Donald Maffly