Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ns-mx!iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!pacbell.com!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Weapons for aircrews/military jets shaking the surrounding area Keywords: reminiscens[Dces Message-ID: <1990Nov15.014932.3734@cbnews.att.com> Date: 15 Nov 90 01:49:32 GMT References: <1990Nov7.035054.11964@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa. Lines: 27 Approved: military@att.att.com From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) In article <1990Nov7.035054.11964@cbnews.att.com>, ehr@uncecs.edu (Ernest H. Robl) writes: > This brings me to the discussion of weapons for aircrews: Most of > the pilots of the smaller aircraft carried both a .45 and -- if they > could get them -- the collapsible-stock version of the M16. The > reason the shorter-stock version was so highly prized (I don't > remember what the official name is, but they were frequently called > LRRP guns)...................... I would guess that you're talking about the CAR-15, the 'issue' weapon for the Special Forces LRRPs. I do know that often the pilots traded for them. Near Danang was MACSOG's CCN (Command & Control - North) Base for the Recon Teams. In addition to all the 'issue' weapons - many manufacturers simply 'gave' SF weapons to use and test for them. In the early stages of the program - some teams carried the Swedish K. Since there was normally a 'surplus' of a variety of weapons - it was simple to trade for other stuff. After a totally annoying attack on the base camp which destroyed some team barracks - some 'surplus' weapons were traded to a nearby Marine construction Engineer unit - and they built two new team barracks! What a deal. mike schmitt